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How to Understand The Quiet Urges of Your Soul with Serena Dyer-Pisoni and Saje Dyer

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Life is full of unexpected challenges. We are bound to face loss and grief. There are times when we’re preoccupied with the chase of finding happiness that we forget to be happy. We get caught up in trying to find the answer to life’s biggest and often unprecedented obstacles. The truth is, the answers lie within ourselves. 

“When you’re raised in a spiritual household, you are encouraged to understand that life is not happening to you. It is responding to you. Or in other words, that you don’t just get what you want. You get what you are.” -Serena Dyer-Pisoni

We all possess an innate knowing that can guide us through our darkest days and most troubling times. But, unfortunately, we don’t always acknowledge its presence. That’s why I’m so happy to invite you to listen to this truly inspiring and touching conversation. 

Wayne Dyer and his spiritual teaching influenced me in so many ways as I embarked on my own journey of personal development. His teachings inspired me to share my passion for personal growth with others. Wayne passed away in 2015. However, I hope to keep his spirit and teachings alive with this episode, where I chat with two of his incredible daughters, Serena and Saje. 

Serena and Saje are following in their father’s footsteps as they embark on a journey of helping others live a life filled with peace, love, and happiness. After their father’s passing, both sisters admitted to feeling immense loss and grief. However, they found comfort and connection to their father through writing. So, we dive into this realization and more as we talk about how their father’s death inspired them to co-author their latest book and to live their best life. 

After living a happy childhood, both sisters acknowledge how their father’s death led to a shift in their perspective on life. (And death.) They share moving stories of how their father’s lessons and legacy continue on after his passing. While this episode is about moving through loss and grief, it’s also about finding the lessons in all of life’s moments. It’s about knowing that we can find purpose in everything we do. 

Truthfully, there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. That’s why we talk about the power of choosing love, joy, and peace, even amid chaos. We explain how keeping that mindset is the secret to creating the life you want to live. It’s the secret to the transformation you’re craving. Listen as we discuss the choices we must make to live a more fulfilled and purposeful life. The truth is, following your heart serves as an inspiration and invitation to do the same. 

It’s not about spending your life finding your purpose or searching for happiness. This episode reveals how we can all choose the energy we bring to every experience. In doing that, we have a say in the outcome. Therefore, we have more control over our experiences than we often take responsibility for. 

This episode is filled with incredibly moving stories that completely blew me away. Serena and Saje articulate their father’s teachings so beautifully, bringing tears to my eyes on more than one occasion. I’m truly in awe of Serena and Saje’s perspective on life. I know you’ll find it both moving and motivational too. So, get comfortable, and let’s dive into this powerful conversation.

In this episode… 

[04:05] Welcome to the show, Saje and Serena!

[08:28] Learn how their father’s passing played a role in writing their latest book. 

[14:09] Hear the beautiful ways Wayne Dyer stayed with his family, even after his passing. 

[18:40] The date that shifted Serena and Saje’s perspective of life. (And death.)

[26:13] Serena shares her story of loss. 

[29:11] The choice we must make to live a more fulfilled and purposeful life. 

[35:17]There is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. 

[38:07] The trouble with “finding your purpose.” 

[40:32] We get to choose the energy we bring to every experience. 

[46:14] Serena shares the biggest lesson her dad taught her. 

[50:38] Saje’s advice for living a life better than your dreams. 

[52:41] Serena’s advice for living a life better than your dreams. 



“When you’re raised in a spiritual household, you are encouraged to understand that life is not happening to you. It is responding to you. Or in other words, that you don’t just get what you want. You get what you are.” -Serena Dyer-Pisoni

“Sometimes it feels like it’s not happening as it’s meant to. It’s not happening fast enough. But you can choose to feel that peace in the moment where it feels like there’s chaos. And, in fact, that’s the only way to have that transformation. That’s the only way to create what it is that you’re looking to create and to just really tune in and create that for yourself instead of waiting for it.” -Emily Williams 

“You have to become what it is you are seeking. It’s the only way the universe works.” -Serena Dyer-Pisoni 

“I like to think of purpose and happiness as synonymous like that. Something that you can tap into and find in every day, with anything that you’re doing -Saje Dyer

“Abundance isn’t something that you acquire in life, and it’s not something that you go out and find and work so hard to get. It’s something that you tap into.” -Saje Dyer

“In the darkest of nights in the heaviest of storms, your knowing guides you home. But you must open your eyes to see it, to feel it, to follow it.”  -Serena Dyer-Pisoni

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